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Dissy · Apr 22, 2008, 06:53 PM // 18:53

If i grey out my heroes/henchies and go kill some things by myself will they still effected the gold/green drops?

i did check the farming facts and scrolled throught the farming page didn't see anything about it so now im asking.

thanks in advance for your answers

serod · Apr 22, 2008, 07:00 PM // 19:00

They won't get any drops if they are out of radar range.

Vann Borakul · Apr 22, 2008, 07:12 PM // 19:12

I think they still get a share of gold, though.

A Urrang · Apr 22, 2008, 07:37 PM // 19:37

you will get all drops but they will take their part of the gold.

Artisan Archer · Apr 22, 2008, 08:23 PM // 20:23

This is interesting for Raptor farming, you would get 3 times as many event drops, just by flagging heroes out of radar range.

Xx_Sorin_xX · Apr 22, 2008, 10:46 PM // 22:46

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Originally Posted by Artisan Archer

This is interesting for Raptor farming, you would get 3 times as many event drops, just by flagging heroes out of radar range.

special event items, as well as dyes, rares, and tomes (the only thing 4 things worth picking up while raptor farming) are exempt from loot scaling.

Antithesis · Apr 22, 2008, 11:26 PM // 23:26

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Originally Posted by Artisan Archer

This is interesting for Raptor farming, you would get 3 times as many event drops, just by flagging heroes out of radar range.

By that logic having a full party of 8 would increase your event drops 8x...it doesn't work that way.

The drop system "appears" to generate all lootscale-exempt monster drops on instance generation. The total number of lootscale-exempt items appears to be fixed for that zone, then split up amongst the party when creature x drops item y. This is an assumption based on Skinny Corpse's research into time-synced instances, read the SoJ vs SV thread for more info. There is variance when it comes to chalk drops, i won't get into that discussion so refer again to Skinny's thread.

As a solo farmer you get lootscale-exempt items that otherwise would have been assigned to other radar-range party members. Take a full party with you into the cave and you'll likely see 1/8th the amount of lootscale-exempt drops. Flagging heroes off radar does increase your odds of golds / greens etc dropping because there's a chance you'll be assigned a drop that would otherwise be assigned to one of them.

The same behaviour can be seen by farming in a PuG - if one person strays off radar they no longer receive drops, those drops are given to other radar-range players instead. It's a reward system for participation and a penalty for going AFK. They do still get a share of the party gold.

Again this is just an assumption but it seems to be the way the drop system works.

Terrokian · Apr 23, 2008, 09:54 PM // 21:54

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Originally Posted by Antithesis

By that logic having a full party of 8 would increase your event drops 8x...it doesn't work that way.

The drop system "appears" to generate all lootscale-exempt monster drops on instance generation. The total number of lootscale-exempt items appears to be fixed for that zone, then split up amongst the party when creature x drops item y. This is an assumption based on Skinny Corpse's research into time-synced instances, read the SoJ vs SV thread for more info. There is variance when it comes to chalk drops, i won't get into that discussion so refer again to Skinny's thread.

http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...php?t=10225077
The afore mentioned thread

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Originally Posted by Antithesis

As a solo farmer you get lootscale-exempt items that otherwise would have been assigned to other radar-range party members. Take a full party with you into the cave and you'll likely see 1/8th the amount of lootscale-exempt drops. Flagging heroes off radar does increase your odds of golds / greens etc dropping because there's a chance you'll be assigned a drop that would otherwise be assigned to one of them.

Wait a sec so flagging a party off screen WOULD increase gold/green drop rate?Say I take my W/Rt in Raptor cave after flagging my H&H at the Rata Sum Portal.Instead of a typical 8 item drop while solo,my drop rate might go to 10-12 with(for instance)4 gold drops?

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Originally Posted by Antithesis

The same behaviour can be seen by farming in a PuG - if one person strays off radar they no longer receive drops, those drops are given to other radar-range players instead. It's a reward system for participation and a penalty for going AFK. They do still get a share of the party gold.Again this is just an assumption but it seems to be the way the drop system works.

Ok Anti you have always been dead on the money EVERY time you have EVER gave an answer.Here I just want to make sure I understand this in it's fullness.If I take a party with me I CAN increase my drops SO LONG AS they are out of radar range when I kill raptors?If this is truly so,this is just amazing what you could possibly do with farming.Not to mention I would believe that there should be quite a few NEW farming areas open up with this information.